Blue Springs to downtown for 25 years, now I go North.
Not from what I see. Calling people names on the internet.
Lol projection as always
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I guess I did hurt your feelings. My apologies.
Having the opportunity to personally observe sucessful people first-hand is an important part of becoming sucessful yourself.
As a high-school dropout, had I not landed a job with IBM as a typewriter service rep at age 21, I could have easily wound up as an assembly-line hourly worker and would only observe sucessful professionals at a distance.
When you see someone doing something day after day and get to know them and their working environment it can lead to a âhey⌠I can do that!â moment and that can lead to a life-changing decision to go for it.
You canât emulate what you donât know, opporunity is what life is all about.
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Thatâs the difference between then and now. Today, you couldnât even score an interview for a typewriter repair rep job with IBM without a computer science degree.
Iâm kind of the same - I got a job with EDS wtih just a high school diploma. I knew bank operations and thatâs what they wantedâŚI learned what took me the rest of the way thru my career there. But I had a chance to prove myself. Today a resume bot would never let your resume thru to anyone in the company.
I did hold a FCC 1st Class Radiomanâs cert and was a Navy E-5 Electricianâs mate and had a 1-yr GED college equiv when I applied for the field tech job at IBM.
But after watching guys sell office products for 8 years and being paid three times what I was making, I walked into the Sales Mgrâs office and told him I would like a job as a salesman. He found an opportunity for me and I jumped on it. At the time they were only interviewing sales applicants off the street with MBAâs.
Lol you really want to believe that. I assure you that you have precisely zero power to affect my emotions in any way, other than making me laugh with your childish behavior.
But you go right on projecting your emotional problems onto me. More laughs for me. 
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That still wouldnât make it past the resume bots at most companies. They donât want certificatesâŚthey want a degree. They are missing out on a lot of good candidates these days.
My kids company requires a college degree, but it can be in anything. Once you make it through the first interview, you take a logic test and only two or 3 percent get passed that and are offered a job. Iâm sure companies would like to hire people without a college degree, they could pay them less but have realized itâs a waste of time.
BTW there are a ton of jobs today that donât require a college degree that pay well, but itâs not working at McDonalds, Starbucks or Walmart.
Quick Trip has a pretty intense hiring/onboarding processing and promotes from within. You can become a store/district manager and make really good money by staying with the company and never going to college.
A kid my son went to high school worked at Menâs wearhouse and became the manager last year and makes just over a hundred grand a year with his bonus. A kid that lives a couple blocks away from us became a fireman in town and heâs making over $80k and will top out a little over $90k in a year or two.
We have a collab between several differdnt school districts of a âcareer centerâ that teaches EMT, auto body, etc. that gets kids into careers without college.
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Try getting one of those in IT.
when I was in high school they had an âauto mechanicsâ class.
Did you learn about the hand crank motor? 
those would be a bitch today where the engine shuts off at a stop light.
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You werenât making that much in IT, you said above that you and your ex combined never made more than $85,000 a year adjusted for inflation.
KC never said that. He was referring to an $85,000 down payment. He only said that his daughter makes by herself what he and his ex made together in 1991, adjusted for inflation. He didnât give any actual numbers.
KC has said in other threads his daughter makes $85,000 a year as a nurse.
No heâs rightâŚI fucked up my calculation and said our combined income was $85k
Iâm human, I admit it. so we made a bit more adjusted for inflation. But the bottom line is taht the house prices went up considerably faster that income.
But the bottom line is that an income like that could afford a house that didnât require one to live in the slums or behind a retail/fast food shops.
The $85K down payment would be for her to move into a starter home today like her parents bought.