“The doctors at Cincinnati Children’s were talking with us and told us that one of the requirements [for being] put on the list is to have the COVID vaccination and the flu vaccination,” Deal said. “That is against everything we believe in.”
Against everything you believe in to protect your kid from deadly diseases?
Per the CDC:, the Flu mortality rate is 0.1 per 100k, which hardly qualifies as a deadly disease.
What do you think that rate is for someone with a heart condition like this?
This post from the comment section made sense to me.
Pasted: The flu can damage your heart by increasing inflammation, lowering oxygen levels, and raising heart rate, which can lead to heart attacks or other serious cardiac events, especially in individuals with preexisting heart conditions.
In the hospital, you’re more likely to be around things like the flu.
The hospital has a duty to make sure the organs are not wasted.
If they feel she should be vaccinated, I would get vaccinated as this is life saving surgery.
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This is what bothers you about this story?
They’ve been brainwashed.
I’d be on their side if there were unlimited hearts available. Since there are not, we must ensure it will go to someone with the best chance of survival.
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The stats (for healthy kids) don’t suggest this. Fewer than 500 children died of COVID.
That said, she is hoping to get a heart transplant. Get the COVID vaccine to get on the list. But it’s horrible as the COVID shot does nothing except maybe marginally make it less dangerous
I think the highest risk categories were:
- people over age 80 - highest risk
- pregnant women - high risk
- people with heart issues
- people over 70
- people with diabetes
Public health not understanding epidemiology during COVID is really discouraging. What was the relative risk of the vaccine vs the relative risk reduction of getting the disease?
How can herd immunity be achieved? Assuming 98% of the USA got the jab, how effective does the jab need to be to achieve herd immunity?
Agreed though I’m not an organ donor
For the covid and flu vaccinations?
I don’t think I have ever heard somebody say something even half as stupid as what you just said above.
It’s pretty stunning, even for you.
Interesting…so based on the life choice people make, we should get to determine what help they receive. I like that…lets apply it everywhere…
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Isn’t that a moral hazard? Are we not supposed to treat everyone
She’s not a healthy kid.
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Organs are scarce resources. If you give a liver to an ongoing alcoholic, that’s a liver that won’t save someone else.
If someone is at unnecessary risk, that heart has a higher chance of being wasted.
These are agonizing decisions, but doctors and medical ethicists do a lot of research to determine the protocols. This isn’t being done out of spite.
True but also needs to have proper evidence and not just conjecture
You can feel the COVID shot will work but if it doesn’t prevent COVID, it’s not an MM&R vaccine
Huh? This isn’t conjecture. The evidence is solid. The Covid vax doesn’t much prevent the disease, but it reduces the chance of serious illness.
That’s what it primarily does
It’s not much different from me going to my allergist to get desensitized to certain allergens.
It isn’t very effective at preventing COVID but it is effective according to you and the sources you’ve read to back it up at preventing serious illness
I was just disappointed that I was hoping to take it three times to prevent COVID and not just a therapeutic that made it less severe supposedly
Just like my allergy shots, the COVID shots were really disappointing
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