So another state paid for another NFL stadium. In very Republican Missouri and Kansas, the states are working on plans to bring or keep the Royals and the Chiefs. Interesting pollā¦81% of the WJ readers donāt like the NFLā¦that darn Kaepernick. They donāt like it, but they still watch it.
Thatās the irony. I donāt watch it. I donāt really watch any sports on tv. I donāt find it interesting.
I do watch in person but rarely. Itās become to expensive to go to game
The article is a POS. It is possible to be critical of the stadium deal for the Buffalo Bills while not conveniently omitting key facts that result in an even more distorted picture.
Point 1:
Democrat Gov. Kathy Hochul signed an agreement that put $600 million in state funding toward a new $2.1 billion stadium for the Bills, with an additional $250 million coming from Erie County itself
The original deal was for $1.4 billion, with $600 million coming from the State, $250 million from the County and $550 coming from the Bills, with the Bills fully responsible for any cost overruns. It is now running at $2.1 billion and is expected to continue to climb.
Point 2:
"And, according to the director of the Center for Sports Venues, since this sports venue is built right next to the old one, thereās no actual benefit taking place for the citizens of the city.
Had this facility been built in Downtown Buffalo it might have stimulated the economy,ā he said. āBut they are just replicating what they had in the same place.ā
Based on the initial cost estimates, it would have cost $2.5 billion to build the stadium in Downtown Buffalo as opposed to $1.4 billion in Orchard Park, that before cost overruns. Had the stadium been put in Downtown Buffalo, the author would no doubt be bitching about spending almost twice the cost just to put a stadium downtown when it would sit empty most days of the year.
Point 3:
And keep in mind, as Rosentraub noted, as long as local and state government made a good-faith effort to keep the team in Buffalo, options for relocation were legally slim.
Ask the good people of St Louis how this turned out for them.
Point 4:
Considering that the last two NFL stadiums to be constructed were built without public funding (SoFi Stadium in Los Angeles, home to the Chargers and Rams, and Allegiant Stadium in Las Vegas, home to the Raiders),
That is true of SoFi Stadium but bullshit for Allegiant Stadium, which received $750 million in public funding. Either the author doesnāt know what he is talking about or thinks the readers will just lap up whatever he says.
The NFL had to pay them because the Rams broke their contract.
But, I agree with you in the fact that the article is BS.
Shitty stadium funding mechanisms are a bi-partisan boondoggle.
We had discussed that subject before, and I summed it up here in this post where the same article talking about good faith efforts and the chances of relocation being legally slim first was posted:
And, here is another misleading article.
Exclusive | Kathy Hochul needlessly handing $850M to Buffalo Bills, legal experts say
That article says how the NFLās settlement with St. Louis over the NFLās relocation guidelines should have given Buffalo leverage. It says that the NFL no doubt wants to avoid another scenario like that. What it doesnāt say is that St. Louis lucked-out when it got a homer judge and that that any verdict would have stood a very good chance of being overturned on appeal but that the NFL didnāt want its dirty laundry aired and therefore settled. It also didnāt mention that Oakland tried filing a similar lawsuit in Federal Court and had it dismissed. Oh, and at the end of the day St. Louis is still without an NFL team and unlikely to get one.
Similarly, if Buffalo and New York State had held out trying to get a better deal it is very possible that the Bills may have left Buffalo once their lease expired after 2023. I am sure the NFL would have very happy to have allowed the Bills to go elsewhere and charge a nice relocation fee. Then, they could dare Buffalo to sue the NFL and see what happened. In the worst case for the NFL, just like with St. Louis, the NFL writes a check and Buffalo is without an NFL team, and the part about the NFL writing a check is hardly a given.
Bottom line: Given the size of the Buffalo market the Buffalo area was in a very weak negotiating position and a good chunk of public money was always going to be needed to ensure the team did not leave. If the ultimate goal was to keep the team in Buffalo, using the New York Postās strategy was flat out dumb. The State and County made the decision that keeping the team was their objective, and they acted as such. Whether that is good public policy or not is open for debate.
Edit:
The NFL never had a contract with St Louis, and the Rams lease had expired. The NFL did not follow its relocation guidelines, as we had also discussed before.
Edit Two: Here is our first discussion on that subject:
Almost all the time they are a money loser. You can make money if the owner and league break the lease apparently.
We had discussed that subject before
Side note, we just voted down an idiotic proposal to give the Chiefs and Royals blank checks of about $3 billion combined
Yes, and the Mayor of Dallas invited the Chiefs to come back. I am sure Jerry Jones will be there with open arms to welcome them.
Yes, and the Mayor of Dallas invited the Chiefs to come back
Ya, that guy is dumb a a bag of hammers
Yes, and the Mayor of Dallas invited the Chiefs to come back. I am sure Jerry Jones will be there with open arms to welcome them.
Not to get picky but the last time the Cowboys played in Dallas was in 1971.
Just like the Bills last played in Buffalo in 1972.