Do you know airbags killed several people before they agreed to be able to turn them off?
I donāt think so, because Obama and Biden substantially ratcheted up the numbers. In 2008, CAFE standards for cars and light trucks were 25-26 MPG. Current regs call for a CAFE standard of 48-49 mpg in 2026.
Most of it needs to go, regardless of when it was enacted.
Itās not doing dick to save the environment, but it is enriching car dealers, servicers, and part makers as these vehicles now require more systems and more repairs.
Itās a bunch of bullshit making already expensive cars way more expensive.
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I just filled up the gas tank.
Is anyone educated on this 10% ethanol gas? When I say educated, I mean have a working knowledge of the physics and/or engineering involved with gas combustion, not just reading shitty corporate news propaganda.
I find it very difficult to believe this is doing anything but shortening the life of engines and enriching corn farmers. Iāll be happy to entertain intelligent arguments to the contrary.
Wellā¦bear in mind that while we want to blame Obama for the onerous car regsā¦you can thank red state (Iowa, Nebraska, Kansas) lawmakers for mandating the ethanol content of gas. Sugar cane is more efficient at producing ethanol but sugar cane doesnāt do well in the Midwest - but corn does.
you are correct. it also doesnāt do well with hoses and is banned from boats
also has les power than gas and costs more to produce in energy than you get back in its use
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This is something else I hope Trump and his people will fix.
Cars are already obnoxiously expensive due to overcomputerization, chip shortage, and the plethora of safety regulations. We donāt need extra expense to appease stupid eco terrorists and subsidy-addicted agribusiness.
Those chips still go to things that people DO want - back up cameras, lane departur warningsā¦automatic brakingā¦stability controlā¦lots of things that donāt do squat for the environment. But againā¦the big push for ethanol didnāt come form tree hugging liberalsā¦it was a ācompromiseā from the republican corn states. Have MTG introduce a bill to ban ethanol from gasoline. She will face resistance from Congressmen from Iowa, Nebraska and Kansas, as well as other red states.
They definitely didnāt complain. At the end of the day this is a bipartisan failure like everything else wrong with this country.
You can butt heads with the unapologetic right wingers all you want around here, but the two-party system is a myth. The problem is the uniparty and always has been.
Al Gore was a big fan of ethenol before he was against it. Remember Al Gore? He invented global warming and said weād all be dead by now if we didnāt do as he said. He even made a movie about his fear mongering, lies and half truths, it won an Academy Award.
Iām not super knowledgeable, but my understanding is that it does maybe a tiny bit, not much, and is mostly in place bc Iowa is an early caucus state and was, until recently, a swing state. So, most politicians wouldnāt touch it.
However, i think that is changing recently.
Anecdotal, but I could go on a long diatribe.
It doesnāt damage auto engines, I grew up in Nebraska we never had any issues related to it, you have to add a treatment for small engines though. I agree that in todayās world it does nothing but subsidize corn farms, we missed the mark in the 70ās and 80ās by not building pipelines to transport it and having to transport it by truck and rail, that literally uses as much oil as it saves.
My ex Father in Law owned a propane business and converted his pick up to run on propane, but had to run gas through it about every 5 tanks to lubricate (I could be off, that was 30 years ago).
Oh, and the other thing is, if we really wanted to make an environmental impact with ethanol, weād do it with sugar, not corn. But Louisiana and Hawaii are not swing states, soā¦
Do you think Iowa and Nebraska are?
As I noted earlier, Iowa is an early caucus state, and for a very long time, it was a swing state.
Fair enough.
Also, as I mentioned, the influence of Iowa may be waning, in both parties. Hereās an article from 3 years ago.
God I hope so.
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