Harrison Butker

There is a giant controversy brewing over Harrison Butker’s commencement speech to a Catholic college graduation.

Chiefs Kicker Goes Wide Right In Blasting Joe Biden On Abortion In Graduation Speech (msn.com)
I listened to the speech and disagree with his stance on abortion, but seriously, nothing in his speech was that controversial and people are basically putting words in his mouth that he didn’t say.

The ironic part is, I would bet that 90% of those criticizing him are the “Free Palestine” geniuses.

I don’t like the stuff about Biden. It kind of reminds me why I “fell away” in 2004…A sermon at church didn’t name names but said that a good Catholic could only vote for a pro life candidate. He’s bashing Biden’s faith. That’s wrong. If he wants to name names of ‘bad Catholics’ then he’ll need a lot more time for his speech since there aren’t all that many Catholics that are as devout as he apparently is. I wonder who he will be voting for if Biden is the morally wrong choice.

I listened to the entire speech.
Agreed with some, disagrees with some.
But the two things that get me are;

  1. The sheer amount of vile hate that he is getting, the majority of it from people who obviously didn’t listen to a word.
  2. He is a Catholic , giving a commencement speech at a Catholic university. What did they expect?
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The pope, cardinals and bishops do not call out an individual mocking their “un Catholic” views. I know Catholics don’t read the bible (I am Catholic, I know this) but at least once a year one of the readings is “judge not lest ye be judged”.

I don’t begrudge Butker holding his views, but if the church hierarchy doesn’t condemn an individual Catholic by name, what gives him the right to do the same.m

Like I said, I don’t like certain parts of his speech.
I just have to remember that twitter isn’t real.

WEll…a devout Catholic doesn’t use birth control. If he or his wife does, then he’s no better than Biden when it comes to his faith, but if they don’t, he shouldn’t be talking at a place were 99.9% of the attendees DO break that rule. And the funny part is - by them breaking that rule, they are reducing he number of abortions. Because yes…even good Catholic girls get them.`

I have mixed feelings on this. On one hand, that seems like a lousy topic for a graduation commencement speech, regardless as to where it was given. On the other hand, as has been mentioned, given where it was delivered, I doubt many in attendance were bothered much by it.

I thought knowing and respecting your audience was one of the keys to good communication.

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I thought there was definitely a “weirdness” to some of his comments, and he could have said the same thing in a more nuanced way.
And there were several things that were real head scratchers, like IVF, but I assume the University leadership screened it.

Interesting take by Whoopie.

Whoopi Goldberg on Harrison Butker remarks: ‘These are his beliefs and he’s welcome to them’ (yahoo.com)

And speaking of abortion, it was fitting for the audience. Criticizing the president his actions not being a “good Catholic” was out of line.

The church has two types of sins…which are kind of like “you’re only human” sins. Then there are mortal sins, which are eternal damnation in hell. There aren’t different levels of mortal sin…eternal damnation is eternal damnation.

And abortion is a mortal sin according to the church. And Biden has “non catholic” views of it. But did he realize that in the audience at that graduation were women who were on the pill, or a depo provera shot, or patch, or IUD. There were men in that audience who wore a condom, preventing his God given seed from performing the function God intended it to perform. And birth control is also considered a mortal sin in the church. Something that the vast majority of those graduates…and even some of their parents, are doing will get them the same eternal punishment that Biden will suffer. And here is his quote:

Our own nation is led by a man who publicly and proudly proclaims his Catholic faith, but at the same time is delusional enough to make the sign of the cross during a pro-abortion rally,”

“He has been so vocal in his support for the murder of innocent babies that I’m sure to many people it appears that you can be both Catholic and pro-choice,” Butker continued.

“Bad policies and poor leadership have negatively impacted major life issues,” he said. “Things like abortion, IVF, surrogacy, euthanasia, as well as a growing support for degenerate cultural values and media, all stem from the pervasiveness of disorder.”

There’s the phrase “cafeteria Catholic” - But citing Biden for his sin and mentioning other equally nasty sins, but leaving out a mortal sin that his audience has and is doing kind of shows he doesn’t condemn EVERY sin he church considers mortal

Bottom line…talk about abortion all you want. Talk about any issue all you want. But don’t call out a person for their violation of that tenet while giving millions of Catholics a pass on an equally severe tenet. The church considers them both to be mortal sins,yet he is giving a pass on millions of other Catholics. And I’d argue that if contraception is a sin, then going to confession once a week or once a month to “confess you sin” while continuing to commit the sin is actually worse. A devout Catholic that has had an abortion will confess it and it will stay in her heart, mind and soul the rest of her life. They are sincere in asking forgiveness. Ask my ex wife about that. Someone who confesses using birth control once a week or once a month isn’t being sincere in asking for forgiveness and makes a mockery of the sacrament of Reconciliation… You know…sin on Saturday and get forgiven on Sunday. Minor detail that many good Catholics, such as Harrison Butker seem to overlook

I guess he also blasted Faucci for the covid vaccine because they apparently use aborted fetuses to create it. Yet, the Pope…the leader of the church…encouraged Catholics to get the shot. I didn’t listen to his speech, but did he call out the Pope?

I see that you didn’t read what I wrote.

I’m saying he didn’t know and respect his audience

Gawd I hate religion, it’s the bain of the world. Ain’t nobody going to live forever in heaven or hell. Nobody has ever risen from the dead. Besides, one bible says if you were born a Bastard, the next 10 generations have no chance of entering heaven, do you know who your ancestors are? :joy: It’s all fiction and proof people will believe anything.

I just seen this posted on Facebook. I agree.

When my grandfather divorced my grandma, she was a young mom of four children with no professional experience. She believed this narrative reiterated by Harrison Butker in his speech to Benedictine College that her vocation was to be a wife and a mother. This was 60 years ago and it left her as a single mother feeling completely powerless.

To hear this misogynistic narrative repeated in 2024 to an audience of men and women graduating college, no less, telling women their greatest accomplishment will be in finding a husband and raising his children (just one of countless problematic messages by Butker), makes my skin crawl. 

My grandmother always instilled me the importance of building my own financial independence. She always used her story as an example to never hand your power over to someone else.

I love being a mother. I love being a wife. They are two of my greatest accomplishments. Two of MANY, including a lucrative career that started with my education. I will always, ALWAYS be more than a wife and a mom. Because my grandmother taught me to put on my own oxygen mask first… in every sense. 

And that doesn’t diminish me; it makes me stronger. I am a strong woman raised by strong women. And with every generation, we will continue to get stronger because we teach each other along the way.

The only people afraid of a strong financially, independent and successful female, is men like this. And the only reason they are afraid is because it diminishes their power and their control. Think about that.

I have no problem at all with anyone giving a commencement speech at a Catholic university that mentions abortion. He is entitled to an opinion and to share it at university that shares his view. My problem with it is the politicization of it by calling out the President for representing all Americas, regardless of his religion for not being a hard line anti abortionist… That was uncalled for…

I was young but I remember when many feared that if Kennedy was elected, the pope would be running the country.