# Why is democracy bad?

**URL:** <https://discourse.thelastforum.com/t/why-is-democracy-bad/110700>\
**Category:** The water cooler\
**Created:** [November 2, 2026, 11:43am UTC](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/t/why-is-democracy-bad/110700 "2026-11-02T11:43:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![smartpolitics](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/user_avatar/discourse.thelastforum.com/smartpolitics/32/10597_2.png) [@smartpolitics](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/u/smartpolitics)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2026, 11:43am UTC](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/t/why-is-democracy-bad/110700/1 "2026-11-02T11:43:24Z")

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Just curious. When I think of any mob, I don’t think the majority has credibility in making good decisions

For instance what about accusing a person of witchcraft? Just because the majority believes it doesn’t make it accurate.

what are good checks on the presidents power and what are good checks on the people, the courts, the Congress, and the state legislatures?

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**Author:** ![Wintermute](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/user_avatar/discourse.thelastforum.com/wintermute/32/35_2.png) [@Wintermute](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/u/Wintermute)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2026, 2:32pm UTC](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/t/why-is-democracy-bad/110700/2 "2026-11-02T14:32:27Z")

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The average person is an idiot. That’s why our founding fathers didn’t want a democracy.

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**Author:** ![H200h](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/e79b87/32.png) [@H200h](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/u/H200h)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2026, 3:06pm UTC](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/t/why-is-democracy-bad/110700/3 "2026-11-02T15:06:49Z")

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> [@Wintermute](#):
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> The average person is an idiot.

🙂 That’s a tad harsh, to what standed are you holding “the average person” to?

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**Author:** ![Wintermute](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/user_avatar/discourse.thelastforum.com/wintermute/32/35_2.png) [@Wintermute](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/u/Wintermute)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2026, 3:12pm UTC](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/t/why-is-democracy-bad/110700/4 "2026-11-02T15:12:06Z")

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> [@H200h](#):
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> 🙂 That’s a tad harsh, to what standed are you holding “the average person” to?

You

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**Author:** ![H200h](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/e79b87/32.png) [@H200h](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/u/H200h)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2026, 3:34pm UTC](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/t/why-is-democracy-bad/110700/5 "2026-11-02T15:34:43Z")

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> [@Wintermute](#):
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> > [@H200h](#):
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> > That’s a tad harsh, to what standed are you holding “the average person” to?
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> You

Would you consider yourself to be average as well?

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**Author:** ![crparrothead](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/user_avatar/discourse.thelastforum.com/crparrothead/32/6648_2.png) [@crparrothead](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/u/crparrothead)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2026, 3:49pm UTC](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/t/why-is-democracy-bad/110700/6 "2026-11-02T15:49:05Z")

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> [@Wintermute](#):
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> > [@H200h](#):
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> > 🙂 That’s a tad harsh, to what standed are you holding “the average person” to?
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> You

I almost spit out my coffee!!!

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**Author:** ![BridgeMaven](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/cdc98d/32.png) [@BridgeMaven](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/u/BridgeMaven)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2026, 3:49pm UTC](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/t/why-is-democracy-bad/110700/7 "2026-11-02T15:49:47Z")

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no, but I don’t think a person has to as intelligent as I am to be capable enough to do most things well

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**Author:** ![Wintermute](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/user_avatar/discourse.thelastforum.com/wintermute/32/35_2.png) [@Wintermute](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/u/Wintermute)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2026, 3:52pm UTC](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/t/why-is-democracy-bad/110700/8 "2026-11-02T15:52:07Z")

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> [@crparrothead](#):
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> I almost spit out my coffee!!!

I can’t be held liable for the destruction of electronic equipment.

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**Author:** ![Wintermute](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/user_avatar/discourse.thelastforum.com/wintermute/32/35_2.png) [@Wintermute](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/u/Wintermute)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2026, 3:52pm UTC](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/t/why-is-democracy-bad/110700/9 "2026-11-02T15:52:43Z")

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> [@BridgeMaven](#):
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> no, but I don’t think a person has to as intelligent as I am to be capable enough to do most things well

The more time you spend with the average person, the more you understand why the founding fathers didn’t want them voting.

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**Author:** ![H200h](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/e79b87/32.png) [@H200h](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/u/H200h)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2026, 4:48pm UTC](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/t/why-is-democracy-bad/110700/10 "2026-11-02T16:48:19Z")

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> [@Wintermute](#):
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> The more time you spend with the average person, the more you understand why the founding fathers didn’t want them voting.

Only 6% of Americans were elegible to vote in our country’s first elections, do you think we should go back to those days?

> **[Expanding White Men’s Right to Vote (1787-1856) - The American Leader](https://theamericanleader.org/timeline-era/expanding-white-mens-right-to-vote-1787-1856/)**
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> Only 6% of the population – mostly White men of property – could vote in the nation's first elections. This slowly changed.

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**Author:** ![Wintermute](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/user_avatar/discourse.thelastforum.com/wintermute/32/35_2.png) [@Wintermute](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/u/Wintermute)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2026, 4:51pm UTC](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/t/why-is-democracy-bad/110700/11 "2026-11-02T16:51:12Z")

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> [@H200h](#):
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> Only 6% of Americans were elegible to vote in our country’s first elections, do you think we should go back to those days?

Yes, and I have said that for years. The common man can’t handle their own affairs much less should they get to vote. It’s why countries are falling apart as we have the average person pushing for bad ideology.

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**Author:** ![H200h](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/e79b87/32.png) [@H200h](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/u/H200h)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2026, 4:57pm UTC](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/t/why-is-democracy-bad/110700/12 "2026-11-02T16:57:07Z")

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> [@Wintermute](#):
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> Yes, and I have said that for years. The common man can’t handle their own affairs much less should they get to vote. It’s why countries are falling apart as we have the average person pushing for bad ideology.

Where and how would you draw the line between the “common man” and people like yourself? And would women and immigrants be able to vote?

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**Author:** ![BridgeMaven](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/cdc98d/32.png) [@BridgeMaven](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/u/BridgeMaven)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2026, 5:00pm UTC](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/t/why-is-democracy-bad/110700/13 "2026-11-02T17:00:36Z")

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The voting age was 21 when I started to vote and it was lowered a few years later to 18 because people who are not eligible eligible to vote we’re being drafted into the army now that we no longer have a draft. I think the voting agent should be  
no longer be 18because when I went to college college, most kids were much more mature than they are now

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**Author:** ![H200h](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/e79b87/32.png) [@H200h](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/u/H200h)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2026, 5:11pm UTC](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/t/why-is-democracy-bad/110700/14 "2026-11-02T17:11:46Z")

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> [@BridgeMaven](#):
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> I think the voting agent should be no longer be 18because when I went to college college, most kids were much more mature than they are now

Or maybe even later, science tells us 25 is a more appropriate age to make adult decisions.

> **[Maturation of the adolescent brain](https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3621648/)**
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> Adolescence is the developmental epoch during which children become adults – intellectually, physically, hormonally, and socially. Adolescence is a tumultuous time, full of changes and transformations. The pubertal transition to adulthood involves...

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**Author:** ![Wintermute](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/user_avatar/discourse.thelastforum.com/wintermute/32/35_2.png) [@Wintermute](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/u/Wintermute)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2026, 5:14pm UTC](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/t/why-is-democracy-bad/110700/15 "2026-11-02T17:14:46Z")

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> [@H200h](#):
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> Where and how would you draw the line between the “common man” and people like yourself? And would women and immigrants be able to vote?

People who own property, are citizens and pay federal income tax get to vote.

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**Author:** ![Wintermute](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/user_avatar/discourse.thelastforum.com/wintermute/32/35_2.png) [@Wintermute](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/u/Wintermute)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2026, 5:15pm UTC](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/t/why-is-democracy-bad/110700/16 "2026-11-02T17:15:20Z")

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> [@BridgeMaven](#):
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> The voting age was 21 when I started to vote and it was lowered a few years later to 18 because people who are not eligible eligible to vote we’re being drafted into the army now that we no longer have a draft. I think the voting agent should be  
> no longer be 18because when I went to college college, most kids were much more mature than they are now

I think it is ironic we can send you to war to kill at 18 but you can’t have a beer.

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**Author:** ![H200h](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/e79b87/32.png) [@H200h](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/u/H200h)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2026, 5:22pm UTC](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/t/why-is-democracy-bad/110700/17 "2026-11-02T17:22:10Z")

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> [@Wintermute](#):
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> I think it is ironic we can send you to war to kill at 18 but you can’t have a beer.

That was my pitch to bartentenders when iwas 18, it never worked, I had to go outside to drink… But then there was always the Acey-Ducey Club. 🙂

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**Author:** ![H200h](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/e79b87/32.png) [@H200h](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/u/H200h)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2026, 5:31pm UTC](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/t/why-is-democracy-bad/110700/18 "2026-11-02T17:31:28Z")

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> [@Wintermute](#):
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> People who own property, are citizens and pay federal income tax get to vote.

I’d agree with that, but I’d include leasehold estate owners as well.

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**Author:** ![Wintermute](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/user_avatar/discourse.thelastforum.com/wintermute/32/35_2.png) [@Wintermute](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/u/Wintermute)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2026, 5:57pm UTC](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/t/why-is-democracy-bad/110700/19 "2026-11-02T17:57:58Z")

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> [@H200h](#):
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> I’d agree with that, but I’d include leasehold estate owners as well.

I know it sounds archaic but if you are not paying the bill, you shouldn’t get to expand the bill.

I also think citizenship shouldn’t be given at birth but earned. Robert Heinlein wrote Starship Troopers about this topic. I think he makes a very good point.

We have to many people who are entitled to the wealth of others but have done nothing for this country except take.

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**Author:** ![mcarley](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/user_avatar/discourse.thelastforum.com/mcarley/32/5644_2.png) [@mcarley](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/u/mcarley)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2026, 6:18pm UTC](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/t/why-is-democracy-bad/110700/20 "2026-11-02T18:18:42Z")

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> [@Wintermute](#):
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> Robert Heinlein wrote Starship Troopers about this topic. I think he makes a very good point.

You realize Starship Troopers was a satire about a fascist society, right?

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