Why flying in America keeps getting more miserable, explained

On top of repeating the same bunk arguments over and over and over again, he doesn’t read the posts he responds to, which in this case answers all the questions he’s asking.

I am grateful for court jesters like KC, whether they intend to be or not. They add an extra element of amusement to these discussions, if you can call them that.

Not really. FAmiies flying with kids better opt to pick seats in advance, lest their 5 year old is seated 6 rows behind them.

Airines set their own prices. Great now…please cite for me one or two of the regulations that got us where we are today. It should be easy since there are a “mountain” of them. I’ll settle for even just the biggest one responsible for this.

Correct. And a couple looking to save money for a dream vacation can pay the lower fare and sit apart for a couple hours. It’s a win-win, people choose the price they want to pay and the amenities they want.

That allowed them to compete on price, which they couldn’t do before. Everybody should recognize that as a good thing, because airfares today are much lower when adjusted for inflation.

You can’t understand this complex issue by listening to sound bites and substituting them for actual thought, analysis, and comprehension.

There are thousands, and you can look that up on ChatGPT on your own time.

But I’ll still give you a couple of examples. One is the current training requirements for an ATP certificate. The steep expense incurred creates a shortage, because many otherwise interested people say “F it, I’m not doing that.” The incidents that spurred these new requirements would not have been solved by these extra requirements. They’re making flight schools richer and consumers poorer.

Another is the FAA being a government organization rather than privatized. No incentive whatsoever to be efficient, other than lobbying by airlines which ultimately benefit from these rules. This caps the number of flights that can occur, which reduces economies of scale.

Yeah..it took 50 years for that to happen.

35 years, and that was for one of the two examples (you of course conveniently ignored the other example).

Feel free to rebut my claim that a $5,000 extra ground school course and 1,250 extra unsupervised flying hours would not have prevented the Buffalo crash captain from giving the improper response to a stall warning that his company should have trained out of him when he was first qualifying.

(I could understand better going from 250 to 500 or even 750, but all the way to 1,500 was a monster jump, and you are paying for the shortage it caused when you purchase an airfare.)

I just got plenty more data from ChatGPT after 10 seconds of searching, but I’m not going to waste my time transmitting it to someone who is clearly uninterested in actually discussing this topic.

You could do that research quickly and easily yourself if you wanted to. But somehow I suspect you’d rather keep operating in partisan sound bites and lazy avoidance responses rather than inform yourself.

I also find it more convenient to fly to a smaller airport in the area is such as Midway instead of O’Hare or Hartford instead of a New York airport to get to Southern Connecticut

In the last 3 weeks I have flown 5 times one being a flight into Canada. No issues on any of the flights. We had checked bags on all of them.

My wife has gotten into the habit of providing a small gift bag of chocolate treats from Aldi like Girardi to the flight crew when we step on the plane. They are very appreciative. We flew Delta and low and behold on our next day’s flight 15 minutes prior to boarding we received texts that our seats were mysteriously upgraded. Never asked for it.

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Funny how karma tends to work.

Nice move. I’ve heard the airline flight crews love it when their passengers take care of them like you did.

Years ago my wife and I were flying from KC to Vegas for a long weekend. The father of one of my daughters friends was a controller at Kansas City Center. I jokingly asked him if there was anything he could do to get us to Vegas faster. During the flight the captain came over the PA and told us that we were passing into New Mexico and were at 28.000 feet. then said “We have a couple of passengers, KCFlyer and his wife, and Joe at Kansas City Center told us to tell you two hi…and we’d like to say thank you” .

At the time, SWA crews were not paid by the hour, they were paid by the trip, and back then turns were around 20 minutes, so there wasn’t a lot of time between flights. Winds at 28.000 were much better than they were at higher altitudes. We actually did get into Vegas ahead of schedule. The flight crew thanked us as we exited the plane in Vegas again.

Ha! That’s hilarious. It pays to know people.