Is that what he said???
Or did he simply say it should be voluntary and not mandated by the government?
I used to think of you as one of the more thoughtful & intelligent posters. But seeing you strawman somebody’s argument is quite disappointing.
There are more ways to be an asshole than simply using foul language & personal insults. Misrepresenting someone’s statements is a pretty stark form of disrespect.
WMJ likes to put words in other people’s mouth.
To clarify, both here and on the CHB Bears has criticized unions, how they make waste in companies, how they negotiate deals that are not sustainable long-term for the company, and the like. At the same time, he has benefitted from working at an employer with a union. I just find the contradiction amusing. Thus, my analogy about the waiter criticizing tipping.
If I have misrepresented what you said about unions, please feel free to correct me. 
You’re pretty good at searching this site, can you give a few links to where I’ve said those things here.
We’re not talking unions, we’re talking about companies matching 401k contributions and the government mandating contributions. I have no problem with companies choosing to match, I don’t think the government should mandate it.
Going on memory, you said more on the CHB than here. I gave the link where you commented on union corruption.
However, back to my question. Did I misrepresent what you have said about unions? If so, now is your chance to set me straight.
And YOU get a match…but feel that others just save like you did without that help. I only point out that you had a shitload (hundreds of thousands) of your employers dollars in your savings that others wouldn’t have, and you won’t even touch that until you have to because of the pension you got (but likely wouldn’t were it not for the union you despise). Because the company on it’s own isn’t benevolent enough to offer it without it being a union demand. I have a pension and I know that’s a rarity. I wish other had one, but you seem to feel that the 401K was better. YOu had plenty of opportunity to escape the shackles of a union job and take a job that only offered a 401K. You are going to do better than most in retirement because you already HAVE more than most in retirement have or will have.
Millions of people get the match, if I didn’t have the match I’d still contribute to my own retirement, plus my match is something like 50% of 4% of my salary. If I wasn’t getting the match I’d contribute a couple thousand more a year because I’m the one responsible for my retirement.
How do you explain the millions of nonunion employees that get the match?
Lol…I haven’t brought up unions here, only whether companies should be forced to match 401K contributions.
When I got hired I had no opinion on unions, but after years of seeing the corruption, favoritism, sexism, and racism I’ve soured on them.
What I find amusing is people not in a union thinking they’re so wonderful.
Do you think unions aren’t corrupt?
I never said anything like that. That thread’s topic was how pensions are unsustainable.
Actually it was about numerous proposed changes to retirement. Then the first post was about mandatory matches.
Then do you think unions are corrupt?
Let’s put it this way. I can not say all unions are corrupt, but I definitely can not say they are all squeaky clean either.
I was referring to the other thread which I linked to here to show Bears’ comment on pensions and union corruption.
How the hell am I supposed to keep up with that???
No more than any other American institution.
