# I said they should do this

**URL:** <https://discourse.thelastforum.com/t/i-said-they-should-do-this/19016>\
**Category:** Sports\
**Created:** [June 1, 2021, 3:35pm UTC](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/t/i-said-they-should-do-this/19016 "2021-06-01T15:35:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![crparrothead](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/user_avatar/discourse.thelastforum.com/crparrothead/32/6648_2.png) [@crparrothead](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/u/crparrothead)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 3:35pm UTC](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/t/i-said-they-should-do-this/19016/1 "2021-06-01T15:35:43Z")

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I will follow this, my heart is on the side of the plaintiffs, but I don’t know the law well enough to make a prediction.

> **[MLB sued for $100M after pulling All-Star Game from Atlanta](https://nbc25news.com/news/nation-world/mlb-sued-for-millions-of-dollars-for-pulling-all-star-game-from-atlanta?fbclid=IwAR22i5HR69_-mLO5zziTIm4UU14p33WPgkmzEEAdEyINwEBQhhN91F9fs9c)**
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> ATLANTA (SBG) — A small business advocacy organization filed a lawsuit Tuesday against Major League Baseball, MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred, the Major League Baseball Players Association and executive director Tony Clark. The lawsuit was filed in U....

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**Author:** ![brobbs](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/user_avatar/discourse.thelastforum.com/brobbs/32/4993_2.png) [@brobbs](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/u/brobbs)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 3:40pm UTC](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/t/i-said-they-should-do-this/19016/2 "2021-06-01T15:40:58Z")

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SB advocacy trade group vs. MLB and its bottomless pit of clout & funding?

Don’t hold your breath.

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**Author:** ![wmj](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/user_avatar/discourse.thelastforum.com/wmj/32/1794_2.png) [@wmj](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/u/wmj)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 6:04pm UTC](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/t/i-said-they-should-do-this/19016/3 "2021-06-01T18:04:55Z")

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> [@crparrothead](#):
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> I will follow this, my heart is on the side of the plaintiffs, but I don’t know the law well enough to make a prediction.

My prediction, as I said earlier when I disagreed with you, is that this lawsuit will go nowhere and the plaintiffs will end up squandering money on legal bills that they could put to better use.

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**Author:** ![crparrothead](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/user_avatar/discourse.thelastforum.com/crparrothead/32/6648_2.png) [@crparrothead](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/u/crparrothead)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 6:14pm UTC](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/t/i-said-they-should-do-this/19016/4 "2021-06-01T18:14:19Z")

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> [@wmj](#):
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> My prediction, as I said earlier when I disagreed with you, is that this lawsuit will go nowhere and the plaintiffs will end up squandering money on legal bills that they could put to better use.

You may very well be right about it going nowhere.  
However, since it is an association that is bringing the lawsuit (the story was not really clear who was in the association) the cost is spread out, and no taxpayer money is going to it.

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**Author:** ![mcarley](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/user_avatar/discourse.thelastforum.com/mcarley/32/5644_2.png) [@mcarley](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/u/mcarley)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 6:17pm UTC](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/t/i-said-they-should-do-this/19016/5 "2021-06-01T18:17:16Z")

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> [@crparrothead](#):
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> You may very well be right about it going nowhere.  
> However, since it is an association that is bringing the lawsuit (the story was not really clear who was in the association) the cost is spread out, and no taxpayer money is going to it.

Did this association have a contract with MLB?

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**Author:** ![crparrothead](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/user_avatar/discourse.thelastforum.com/crparrothead/32/6648_2.png) [@crparrothead](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/u/crparrothead)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 6:23pm UTC](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/t/i-said-they-should-do-this/19016/6 "2021-06-01T18:23:24Z")

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> [@mcarley](#):
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> Did this association have a contract with MLB?

Once again, the story is not clear.  
However, there is mention in the story of over 8000 hotel rooms being cancelled.  
An argument could be made regarding verbal contracts.

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**Author:** ![Wintermute](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/user_avatar/discourse.thelastforum.com/wintermute/32/35_2.png) [@Wintermute](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/u/Wintermute)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 6:43pm UTC](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/t/i-said-they-should-do-this/19016/7 "2021-06-01T18:43:12Z")

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> [@mcarley](#):
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> Did this association have a contract with MLB?

You don’t need a contract to be sued.

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**Author:** ![mcarley](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/user_avatar/discourse.thelastforum.com/mcarley/32/5644_2.png) [@mcarley](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/u/mcarley)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 7:06pm UTC](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/t/i-said-they-should-do-this/19016/8 "2021-06-01T19:06:04Z")

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> [@Wintermute](#):
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> You don’t need a contract to be sued.

So, parties A and B have a contract, from which party C will also benefit. Party A backs out of contract and party C loses their benefit. Under what law can party C sue?

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**Author:** ![Wintermute](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/user_avatar/discourse.thelastforum.com/wintermute/32/35_2.png) [@Wintermute](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/u/Wintermute)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 7:15pm UTC](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/t/i-said-they-should-do-this/19016/9 "2021-06-01T19:15:40Z")

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> [@mcarley](#):
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> So, parties A and B have a contract, from which party C will also benefit. Party A backs out of contract and party C loses their benefit. Under what law can party C sue?

Party c still suffered a loss because party A changed their mind without a sufficient Reason.

It doesn’t mean it’ll be successful but you don’t need a contact to sue.

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**Author:** ![jimtoo](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/user_avatar/discourse.thelastforum.com/jimtoo/32/16415_2.png) [@jimtoo](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/u/jimtoo)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 8:19pm UTC](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/t/i-said-they-should-do-this/19016/10 "2021-06-01T20:19:19Z")

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> [@mcarley](#):
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> So, parties A and B have a contract, from which party C will also benefit. Party A backs out of contract and party C loses their benefit. Under what law can party C sue?

It’s not a law, it’s a tort. It’s sometimes called being a third party beneficiary, meaning that a person not a party to a contract would have benefited by the contract between two other parties. To determine if that tort would apply here, one would need know know what any actual contracts stated, how much the organization’s members relied at those contracts, conditions under which one of the parties could cancel the contract, how Georgia courts have ruled on third party beneficiary breaches, and probably a couple of other things.

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**Author:** ![smartpolitics](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/user_avatar/discourse.thelastforum.com/smartpolitics/32/10597_2.png) [@smartpolitics](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/u/smartpolitics)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 8:54pm UTC](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/t/i-said-they-should-do-this/19016/11 "2021-06-01T20:54:56Z")

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> [@jimtoo](#):
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> meaning that a person not a party to a contract would have benefited by the contract between two other parties.

I agree that they should have standing. That says I won’t be surprised if MLB tries to have this dismissed in summary judgment in order to slow down this lawsuit and force it to go thru the appeals process before the case can even be considered

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**Author:** ![crparrothead](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/user_avatar/discourse.thelastforum.com/crparrothead/32/6648_2.png) [@crparrothead](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/u/crparrothead)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 8:57pm UTC](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/t/i-said-they-should-do-this/19016/12 "2021-06-01T20:57:35Z")

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> [@jimtoo](#):
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> how Georgia courts have ruled on third party beneficiary breaches, and probably a couple of other things.

It is filed in Federal Court.  
Southern District New York, probably because of where MLB headquarters are.

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**Author:** ![jimtoo](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/user_avatar/discourse.thelastforum.com/jimtoo/32/16415_2.png) [@jimtoo](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/u/jimtoo)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 9:54pm UTC](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/t/i-said-they-should-do-this/19016/13 "2021-06-01T21:54:54Z")

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> [@crparrothead](#):
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> It is filed in Federal Court.  
> Southern District New York, probably because of where MLB headquarters are.

But, if the action arose due to events in Georgia (assuming any contracts were subject to GA rules and law), the federal court will have to apply GA rules and laws.

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**Author:** ![crparrothead](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/user_avatar/discourse.thelastforum.com/crparrothead/32/6648_2.png) [@crparrothead](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/u/crparrothead)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 10:05pm UTC](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/t/i-said-they-should-do-this/19016/14 "2021-06-01T22:05:32Z")

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> [@jimtoo](#):
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> > [@crparrothead](#):
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> > It is filed in Federal Court.  
> > Southern District New York, probably because of where MLB headquarters are.
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> But, if the action arose due to events in Georgia (assuming any contracts were subject to GA rules and law), the federal court will have to apply GA rules and laws.

Thanks for clarifying.

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**Author:** ![sgtFriday](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/f05b48/32.png) [@sgtFriday](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/u/sgtFriday)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 10:07pm UTC](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/t/i-said-they-should-do-this/19016/15 "2021-06-01T22:07:17Z")

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> [@crparrothead](#):
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> Thanks for clarifying

The only “clarification” necessary could be made by any layman… this suit ain’t gonna go nowhere nohow. 😇

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**Author:** ![Wintermute](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/user_avatar/discourse.thelastforum.com/wintermute/32/35_2.png) [@Wintermute](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/u/Wintermute)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 10:10pm UTC](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/t/i-said-they-should-do-this/19016/16 "2021-06-01T22:10:16Z")

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> [@sgtFriday](#):
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> The only “clarification” necessary could be made by any layman… this suit ain’t gonna go nowhere nohow. 😇

With your track record that means they will most likely win. You probably jinxed the MLB.

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**Author:** ![crparrothead](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/user_avatar/discourse.thelastforum.com/crparrothead/32/6648_2.png) [@crparrothead](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/u/crparrothead)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 10:28pm UTC](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/t/i-said-they-should-do-this/19016/17 "2021-06-01T22:28:29Z")

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> [@sgtFriday](#):
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> The only “clarification” necessary could be made by any layman…

What the fuck are you talking about?

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**Author:** ![Wintermute](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/user_avatar/discourse.thelastforum.com/wintermute/32/35_2.png) [@Wintermute](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/u/Wintermute)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 10:34pm UTC](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/t/i-said-they-should-do-this/19016/18 "2021-06-01T22:34:54Z")

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> [@crparrothead](#):
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> What the fuck are you talking about?

He is saying there is no way the lawsuit works.

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**Author:** ![crparrothead](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/user_avatar/discourse.thelastforum.com/crparrothead/32/6648_2.png) [@crparrothead](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/u/crparrothead)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2021, 11:03pm UTC](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/t/i-said-they-should-do-this/19016/19 "2021-06-01T23:03:25Z")

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> [@Wintermute](#):
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> > [@crparrothead](#):
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> > What the fuck are you talking about?
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> He is saying there is no way the lawsuit works.

Which is irrelevant to the conversation Jim and I were having.

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**Author:** ![Cnon](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@Cnon](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/u/Cnon)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2021, 1:28am UTC](https://discourse.thelastforum.com/t/i-said-they-should-do-this/19016/20 "2021-06-02T01:28:21Z")

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Ortiz also said in the statement, “Small businesses in this community had valid contracts relating to the All-Star Game and other events, the result of two years of planning and all that was ripped away by fear and misinformation spewed by political activists.”

> **[MLB Sued for $100 Million Over 'Hypocritical' Decision to Move All-Star Game...](https://www.westernjournal.com/mlb-sued-100-million-hypocritical-decision-move-star-game-political-reasons/?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=WJBreaking&utm_campaign=breaking&utm_content=western-journal)**
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> 'MLB robbed the small businesses of Atlanta - many of them minority-owned - of $100 million, we want the game back where it belongs.'