Does this finally kill tipping?

For the federal minimum wage, there is a difference. Some states set different rules.

Some states minimum wage for tipped workers is under $3 an hour, if someone can’t make five or six bucks in tips they’re in the wrong line of work. The employer has to make up the difference between the tipped wage and state minimum wage if the employee doesn’t make the minimum with tips

FWIW I think not taxing tips is stupid, people who get cash tips aren’t reporting them now. Just like the guy I pay cash to do something around my house isn’t reporting it.

FWIW part two, the tip I leave even at breakfast with my wife would bring the servers pay above the state minimum.

In some states there is a lower minimum wage for tipped employees. The NM state minimum is $12.00/hr, except tipped employes’ minimum is $3.00/hr. In Michigan, the minimum is $12.00/hr, except tipped employees is $4.74/hr.

Any tips are added to the tipped minimum wage to bring them up to at least the state’s minimum wage, in NM’s case $12. Sunday I went to brunch with my wife and son, the bill was a little over $90, I tipped $20 and we were there about an hour. Even if the other 4 or 5 tables she had tipped zero she was well above the minimum wage.

Get rid of tipping completely. Pass a law that all employees at restaurant must get paid minimum wage and tipping is discouraged

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I’d be in favor of the first part of that.

You can’t pass a law to just “discourage” something. Gotta be more specific. That’s what makes it hard.

There are some restaurants that have tried bucking the trend, but it never seems to catch on.

I’d love to see tipping just disappear altogether.

Cause our laws are stupid.

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To an extent

The president can use the bully pulpit and say as he signs it this is the end of tipping. Americans you now can just pay the menu prices.

Also outlaw the service fee for large parties

Don’t allow it on credit cards. Bam. Problem solved.

Political suicide.

There is a reason Trump is trying to end taxes on tips.

Servers make way more money on tips than if they were paid minimum wage.

And by the way, they are already guaranteed minimum wage. If they’re too bad at their job to earn enough tips to clear minimum wage, their boss has to make up the difference.

Why? Do you hate servers and want them to hate you?

You’re under no obligation to tip. If you hate tipping, just don’t do it. No need to outlaw it and ruin everyone else’s experience.

Not at all. But prior to 2020 about the only place someone tipped was either when they had a pizza delivered or ate in a “sit down” restaurant. Now we are asked to tip at pretty much everything.

i gt my car washed at a place that used to be called Green Lantern, but now it’s callled Charlie’s. They had signs that said that their employees were paid well and that there was no tipping. If you tried, they would politely decline it. Then they were sold to another group. And now, when you pay, they ask if you want to tip. IT’s an automatic car wash, but if you want them to clean your interior - the price is $25 and it doesn’t take them long. That’s pretty steep - and honestly, I can’t see the reason I should tip, especially when I hadn’t in prior years.

That actually may be the easiest solution

I am with Mac on this.
In the vast majority of professions it is up to the owner/manager to determine how much to pay employees. Why should it be up to the customer to determine the wage in some industries?
Should I wait until my patio door is installed to arbitrarily decide how much to pay the contractor?

When I worked part time at Home Depot we had a no tip policy.
I had a customer that, short of fighting him, insisted on tipping me $5.
I went to my manager and had him put the money in the break room fruit bowl fund.

Now, we could tell customers to complete the survey at the bottom of the receipt and mention our name, if we got three of those we got a “Homer” and a $50 Visa card.

I agree, but it’s becoming custom to tip some employees, it’d be diff to change that. Restaurants have tried by paying a"living wage" but it doesn’t work out. The most annoying thing is being asked for a tip when picking up at a counter.

A few months ago I stopped at a dunkin donuts to buy my grandson a donut and milk. We were in the drive thru. When I got to the window, the girl turned the card reader to me when it asked for the tip amount. I pressed no tip. The next time I went thru there they didn’t do that. I have an idea that several folks felt that may be gong a little far. But I also don’t like tipping BEFORE “service” either.

I tip with cash when I can, but it’s much easier the tap your card, hit 20% and sign. I carry cash, but usually $20’s and higher and don’t want to ask for change for a smaller tip.

A lot of times I will go to and place an order at a local “tavern” or “bar and grill” and get a beer while I wait. I will never tip on the full hill but will leave a couple of bucks on the bar for the bartender

Servers out here make like 15 an hour plus tips. It’s expensive to eat out. If you figure 20% they are making some serious bank

I am not saying they shouldn’t be paid well but if we are paying a good wage with high food cost, we should pay less in tip.